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Continuity Planning & Social Fabric Development

Think “Planning and Development” at Sunnyhill, and the image is likely filled with buildings and construction. That is accurate; the deep energy retrofit and exploration of a new building are certainly front and centre on the co-op agenda. One thing we are learning is that keeping the social fabric of Sunnyhill healthy is at least as important, if not more so, than the bricks and mortar that provide the shelter. 

The Planning and Development Committee would like to hear from you about how we as a community can prepare to undertake exploring Continuity Planning & Social Fabric Development of the Co-op. 

GOAL:  The goal of this work is to undertake a robust planning process that can re-invigorate and re-tool the social assets of Sunnyhill. By doing so, we can create deeper engagement within the community, retain members, and sustain the self-management model of our community as we work to secure the long-term future of the cooperative. 

STRATEGY: We are just at the very early stages of this work and would like to engage the co-op in developing priorities for this work. 

1.     Tell us what your top 3 priorities are through the simple anonymous online survey below (March)

2.     Then share with us a bit more through a quick conversation (April/May)

3.     Join a focus group where we can explore the top 3 priorities in greater depth (June-Oct)

OUTCOME: By the end of the year the results of this process will have shown us what the co-op’s top priorities are, as well as start the process of generating recommendations for how we can proceed with further developing this work.

We anticipate that this process will take many years, many conversations and much cooperation. We look forward to embarking on this process of discovery together and cooperatively determining how the process will unfold.


SURVEY DEFINITIONS

Engagement (how committees/board decide priorities & respond to needs)
Participation (what it means at Sunnyhill & how we make it happen) 
Defining Shared Values (what ethics/values drive us?) 
Education & Training of Co-op Members (how to participate in meetings, read budgets, volunteer, and governance etc.)
Education & Training of Volunteers (roles, responsibilities, processes for being successful on committees)
Succession Planning & Development (how do we ensure knowledge translation/transfer to new/younger members for long term continuity)
Relationships & Trust (maintaining & strengthening it broadly across the co-op)
Constructive Communication (how do we dialogue as neighbours, disagree & problem solve) 
Other (Please explain)

The survey is now closed. Thanks for your response.

Results will be shared with members in the near future.

Webinar Series: Board Governance for Not-or-Profit Organizations

Submitted by Brenda Willman

I offer this piece of information to the coop, noting that the full link is available at https://www.lesaonline.org/product/webinar-on-demand-board-governance-for-not-for-profit-organizations-4-day-series/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DMMar22_WOD

I believe one may need to be with a legal firm to access LESA material, but if so, that's something we could ask 'our lawyer' to set up for our Board (which they should be able to do for a minimal fee, if any at all). Perhaps the Day 1 and 3 webinars might prove most useful to an actual person serving on a Board (as opposed to being useful only to counsel serving a Not-for-Profit Organization).

Please consider this in the thoughtful and knowledgeable way in which it was intended. I have worked in the legal profession for 25+ years and know there are resources out there that lay people can understand without the benefit of a Law Degree. I shouldn't have to say so, but this is not a finger-pointing exercise. Many people took to these pages to opine on how/why we should move forward. I am suggesting that our Board could get a start on managing their own dysfunction, and that can dovetail into managing dysfunction within the coop at large. We have to start somewhere...

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Permaculture Potential: Permaculture and Air Pollution

Submitted by Debbie Willis, on behalf of the Grounds Committee

I have been reading a hugely informative book called Breath, by James Nestor, about the importance of correct breathing for our mental, emotional and physical health. This book inspired me to investigate how our environment affects our ability to breathe in a healthy way, and the possibility that permaculture at the co-op might improve our air at Sunnyhill Co-op. This feels particularly relevant as Alberta is now on the precipice of a third wave of Covid-19 and we are all concerned about the health of our respiratory systems.

The effects of air pollution:

According to the World Health Organization, a reduction in air pollution – in particular, four key pollutants: particulate matter, ozone, nitrogen dioxide, and sulfur dioxide – would help cut rates of stroke, lung cancer, asthma, heart disease, and respiratory disease. Small particles get absorbed straight through the lungs into the blood and are responsible for chronic effects including cardiovascular disease, according to respiratory physician Louis Irving. He goes on to say that large particles lodge in the lung and can cause effects such as cancer, asthma, and chronic respiratory disease. (Source: permaculturenews.org)

Air pollution is particularly damaging to children and young people. The negative impacts of air pollution on a young person can affect everything from environmental allergies to breathing issues such as asthma, to a child’s body mass index, according to researchers at the University of Calgary. At least one study showed that cognitive development was less in children that went to schools in areas with high traffic-related pollution, said Stefania Bertazzon and Rizwan Shahid of the Geography of Health and GIS Analysis research group at the O’Brien Institute for Public Health in the Cumming School of Medicine. (Source: Global News, 2016.)

Pollution solution:

But here's the good news! Though we live near downtown and Memorial Drive, putting us at risk for air pollution, we can mitigate this effect by increasing the tree cover and diversity of our green space.

According to research into urban food forests developed in Peterboro Ontario, there are many advantages to permaculture and polyculture green spaces when it comes to air pollution. It is well documented that plants can take up gaseous pollutants, as well as reducing particulate matter suspended in the air, which sticks to plant surfaces (Currie and Bass, 2008). Some of the particulates are absorbed into the plant, although most of them just stick to the surface and are washed away by rainwater to the soil below (Currie and Bass, 2008). This prevents us from breathing them into our lungs.

Urban trees and other vegetation can also reduce contaminants making it to water bodies, such as rivers (Smith et al., 2013). Plants can prevent sediment, as well as other contaminant loading of rivers (such as nitrogen, phosphorus, and other pollutants) (Smith et al., 2013). As a community located close to the river that is also our drinking-water source, this could be a Calgary-wide advantage to permaculture development at our co-op.

One of the beautiful and most important aspects of permaculture is that, unlike typical agriculture, it embraces the planting and tending of trees—and trees are pollution-absorbing powerhouses! According to the USDA Forest Service, tree transpiration and tree canopies affect air temperature, radiation absorption, heat storage, wind speed and relative humidity, and these changes in local meteorology can alter pollution concentrations in urban areas. Reduced air temperature due to trees can also improve air quality because the emission of many pollutants and/or ozone-forming chemicals are temperature-dependent.

As a final note that I think is significant and exciting, here's an example of trees used on a large scale to decrease air pollution: in 1994, trees in New York City removed an estimated 1,821 metric tons of air pollution. This had an estimated value to society of $9.5 million, in reduced health care costs and other benefits. Perhaps, by decreasing our grass monoculture in favour of more plant diversity, we at the co-op could experience this type of well-being in our little community too!

Notes from the BluPlanet Recycling Presentation

Submitted on behalf of the Education Committee by Belle Auld

  • Foam food containers are NOT the same as food-soiled paper – foam containers always go in the garbage

  • Food-soiled paper such as cardboard pizza boxes go in the green compost bin

  • Plastic clamshell containers MUST be clean to be recycled 

  • Single use plastic bags and all stretchy plastic must be combined into one bag and TIED closed

  • Black plastic containers go in the garbage

  • Please do NOT use compostable bags for garbage – these and any organic/food waste create methane gas in the landfill (methane is much more harmful to the environment than carbon)

  • Please bag all garbage to keep it from flying out of the BluPlanet trucks

  • Tin foil can be recycled only if it is CLEAN

  • Small household items such as humidifiers do NOT go in the garbage – they go to electronic recycling (there is an electronic recycling bin at West Hillhurst Community Centre, inside by the ice rink)

  • Yard waste in large bags – let Yvonne Sabraw know when you have these. She takes them to the dump so we avoid the extra costs BluPlanet charges when these are outside the bins

All About Sourdough: Information and Recipes

Submitted by Belle Auld on behalf of the Education Committee

Better late than never…  For those of you baking (or thinking of trying to bake) with sourdough, here is some information about sourdough and links to some recipes.

Sourdough can be made with many different flours. Injera bread, traditional in Ethiopia, is made with gluten-free teff flour, though it is difficult to breed a successful starter with only teff flour. Most injera recipes call for the addition of either wheat or rye flour – which then makes it not gluten-free. Some injera recipes suggest substituting millet flour for teff. There are also basic sourdough starters made with gluten-free flours (see recipes below).

The starter can also vary – some recipes call for water to be added to the flour; some call for milk. You would think that adding milk and keeping it for years or decades might not be a good idea, but it seems to work without poisoning those who eat the products made with it. I used milk in my sourdough in my pre-gluten-free days when I lived in the country and never poisoned anyone (that I know of).  

A side advantage of having sourdough around is that it is then easier to make wine without having to add yeast. The sourdough produces yeast spores that hang around ready to turn zinfandel grape juice into wine. (I also did that successfully when living in the country – also without poisoning anyone – that I know of…).

Recipes:

Sourdough starters:

Sourdough recipes:

Anyone have a favourite sourdough recipe (or sourdough starter) they would like to share?

Free Online Tree Workshops via The City of Calgary

Submitted by Mahlah Hansen on behalf of the Grounds Committee

Coming up this week! Free Online Tree Workshops via The City of Calgary:

Our annual tree workshops are moving from in-person events to free, online live events due to COVID restrictions.

The workshops will be approximately 1.5 hours in length and will feature a live Q&A session at the end with a City of Calgary Urban Forestry Technician to offer advice and answer any tree-related questions or concerns.

Pre-registration is required for all of the workshops, if you would like to attend, please register below. The link to the workshop will be emailed to participants two days prior to the program date.

All materials will be available for downloaded prior to the start of the workshop. The workshops will also be recorded and available to view on Calgary.ca at a later date.

Pruning Basics Workshop, March 2021

Not sure how to prune your trees? Afraid that you will do more harm than good?

In this workshop you will learn why you need to prune your trees, the best time of year to do your pruning and the best tools to use to keep your tree happy and healthy for many years to come.

Workshops available:

March 16, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: FULL

March 18, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: Register here

March 24, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: Register here

Pests & Disease Workshop, April 2021

Have you looked at your trees and noticed they aren’t as healthy as they use to be and wondered what could be happening to them? Do you think you could improve your knowledge about tree health? In this workshop we will cover the common tree diseases are in Calgary, what they look like, what treatments can be used and where to go for more information. This is a beginner course, with an opportunity to ask a Calgary Parks Urban Forest Technician questions about your trees.

Workshops available:

April 20, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: Register here

April 22, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: Register here

April 28, 7 - 8:30 p.m.: Register here

Sunnyhill Easter Sunday Egg Hunt!

Submitted by James Jordan on behalf of the Social Committee

Dear SunnyhIll,

The Social Committee has designed an idea for this year's Easter Sunday Egg Hunt and we would like to invite you to participate.

Place an Easter decoration in your window. A large decoration that can be seen from the ground.

Our kids are tasked with drawing the decorations in exchange for a basket of Easter treats.

Please join us. Register your home as “hunters” or “decorators” at the link below.

https://forms.gle/K6MnKCbuzkRLhvn27

The Social Committee

An Interpretation of the March 2 General Meeting and a Response to Members' Letters

Sumitted by Yvonne Sabraw

The letters written after the March 2nd meeting deserve a response. An apology, for sure, from one of the people who was perceived as dominating the meeting and clearly upsetting many people. Last year, when we headed into the June 7th meeting, Richard quoted me in his opening statement to the meeting. It was a piece of a letter I had intended to send to the whole membership regarding what I feared was about to happen at that particular meeting, and asking newer members who might not be familiar with co-op practices to be aware that this was going to be an unusual meeting. Perhaps I should have prepared some kind of preamble for the March 2nd one as well.

What would it have said? What follows here is a mix of what could have been a preamble and my interpretation of the March 2nd meeting.

Preamble:

That people should know that they were going into a meeting that had no motions, and therefore, following Robert’s Rules, unless they asked for it, there would be no forum for discussion. Reports would be submitted, and it is standard to simply note that these were received, only discussing them if there is a recommendation that requires a motion that comes out of them.

That whether they agreed with Richard’s essay’s conclusion or not, they might want to take exception to any single member in our co-op stating that they have just given the final word on how our community documents its meetings. We could all appreciate the work that Richard put into this effort. And thank him for it. It is valuable to bring this research and thought to the discussion. Nevertheless , no one person has that special position or power in our co-op and we should not set such a precedent. Which is why I asked him to make a motion that the membership accept his proposal and this would give us all a voice. And if we agreed with him, the conclusions would be our membership’s word, not just Richard’s.

If there were argument on this, I would have had to go a bit further and say I was disappointed to read assertions in Richard’s essay that “almost a year of discussion” had taken place on minutes. It is a perennial discussion. But besides the challenges over the documentation of the June 7th meeting, there hasn’t actually been a forum for ANY community discussion. I would have welcomed that forum - as an opportunity to educate ourselves and as a chance for every member to think hard about what works for us.

That I hoped somebody other than me would point out that our Board had gone directly against co-op policy when it had failed to promptly provide minutes of our meetings to the membership. That even Robert’s Rules makes a statement about minutes having to be presented in a timely manner. There was no justification for holding back the minutes of P&D general meetings from Sept and December. Or the special meeting requested by Grounds on July 28 for that matter.

I wish someone had raised their hand and asked what a “Consent agenda” is. And why no one has ever presented a consent agenda at a meeting this way before. And what was the purpose this time around.

I wish someone else had pointed out the errors in the minutes that were being presented. Members at the meeting should know that in these minutes there were items contrary to what we had just said we wanted from our minutes. Truly, folks, I waited for others to speak on this. No one raised these points. Our July 28 minutes would have passed with an obvious error if we’d all just raised our hands and said “aye” for the consent agenda.

That a “committee of the whole” is more or less what we do every year when we discuss the proposed budget - for members to make recommendations before it comes back to another meeting for a vote. But there are no examples on the internet of a “Committee of the Whole” being the title of the facilitated/mediated group therapy session like the one we had on June 7th.

And - after reading the letters in the special edition, I want to thank people who commented on how we use Robert’s Rules. You have confirmed that we do still need dialogue and thought in this.

Okay - fun part of my letter:

True or false: a member who was not at the meeting for which minutes are being read and approved can not vote to approve them (actually - this is False! You don’t have to have been at a meeting to approve the minutes... this is apparently a common fallacy!)

True or false - the names of the person making the motion and the person seconding it should be recorded in the minutes? (Also false! The person making the motion can be named, the seconder should not. There should be no assumption that the seconder supports the motion - only that they believe it has merit in being discussed!)

A final word. I’m glad that the newsletter might now be a forum for discussion.


Finding a Path Forward Through Conflict

Submitted by David Broadhead

Dear neighbours,

In response to Phil’s note about the investigation that the Board reported on recently, I tapped out a few thoughts. This note is meant to engage ideas and push pull and tug at them. Let’s see where they land.

I can’t know where the investigation started and stopped. It was confidential and needs to stay that way. That honours the folks who contributed, believing in that confidentiality.

Let me quote a chunk here:

“Where we have difficult interactions across the membership that are traceable to personal styles and convictions and not malicious intent…,”

In this statement I find assertions that lack support. They need to be filled out. Are these conclusions of the investigation or the judgement of a member or members?

If these are conclusions from the investigation, they can’t be discussed. There is necessary context that members cannot know. Conclusions like these would be a stab in the dark.

Should these judgements be the opinion of a member or members, where does that take us? Most of us have strong feelings about inter-family conflict. Much of the time we don’t understand the full story. With respect, the stabbing here is in the same darkness.

And thus the next question – are we equipped to deal with tough conflict in our community?

I experienced difficult conflict last year, in fact I know I contributed to the conflict. At times I turned the heat up rather than dowsing the flame. However we describe that time, it did not feel like “personal styles and preferences”. I can’t know if others were acting out of “malicious intent”. Hopefully malicious intent was absent from all of our words.

What’s the point? It’s this – we can’t go back and redo or undo the investigation. Nor can we journey rearward and do a better job of handling old conflict with our neighbours. This is a one way street.

Many of us think that we were unprepared for community life over the past couple of years. The careful writing and lots of it on this page shows that. Members speaking. There are strong, deliberated ideas here. Hear the calls for us all to be better.

Let’s all contribute to the questions about Continuity Planning. We are hungry for courage and compassion. The whole is wiser than any one or group of us.

I have to work Roberts Rules in somehow. Here is my attempt:

I am a fan. That is, I am a fan of any operating policy that helps the shyest among us find equality with the brashest. That making way for others is a beautiful thing. Without waiting for survey results or construction grants, I can do exactly that now.

The question of what to do about past pain is too much for this note. People hurt, the community must acknowledge it in some way. We need wisdom and big soft hearts.

When I arrived at Sunnyhill I soon heard about Vision 2020. Didn’t know much about it, but it was the first time I associated Phil with anything. Since then he has constantly looked to the future and at times I get to work with him. Let’s keep our future in focus and head that way together.


Clarification on Minutes Review Report at March 2 Meeting

Submitted by Brenda Willman

CLARIFICATION ON MY MARCH 2, 2021 REPORT ON MINUTES DEFICIENCES AND APPEAL TO MEMBERSHIP ON RETIREMENT FROM COOP LIFE – FROM BRENDA WILLMAN

Fellow coopers: It was revealed to me on March 12, 2021 that the set of minutes I spent time reviewing was not a complete set of minutes from 2008 – 2021, thus my findings were incorrect.

I was not aware that I had not been provided all of the minutes I had asked for, having repeatedly commented that I needed to see all of the minutes from 2008 and going forward to be thorough. I put that in writing.

Had the fact that I was working with an incomplete set of minutes been pointed out to me at the March 2, 2021 meeting, I would have been sufficiently chagrined, and embarrassed as well, so as to have withdrawn the findings and gone back to the drawing board with a full complement of minutes. I will admit to my own shortcoming that I would have been put off as well, as I don’t like to present incomplete findings due to no fault of my own.

I received a comment, at the same time I learned that the minutes were a subset of the total, that it had been my intention to point out that people “were wrong” on March 2. I know why I introduced my findings - because of my genuine desire to alert my fellow members to what I thought was a severe deficiency – and I wanted to alert you all prior to commencing any discussion about minutes and prior to commencing any discussion about the ESSAY ON MINUTES penned by our Chair. At no time did I infer that the present board or anyone else caused the deficiencies. I was not personally involved in a finger-pointing exercise, and if anyone read that into my making the point of information, I cannot help that. I cannot comprehend why anyone would believe that I would deliberately blame the present board for missing minutes which were recorded (or not) well before their time. It is not logical, and if I am anything, I am logical and extremely detail oriented when doing that kind of work. (15 missing sets of minutes for sure, plus all of 2011, part of 2020 and all of 2021 is a lot of missing minutes, and at least 18 sets of minutes maybe not subsequently approved – THAT is what I wanted the membership to hear and act upon).

I have decided to completely withdraw from participating in any future coop life. I have asked the present chair (as de facto person to approach) to be excused from volunteering. I am no longer able to shoulder bullying, the frequent misrepresentation of my motives to others and to my face, and the resulting animosity. I also consider that I was part of the entire Newsletter Committee that was replaced, and that recently I was refused participation on the minute review project, so I cannot see how my participation will be suitable or welcome on any project or committee.

I have given much over the course of 31 years, and many of you are not aware of the volume of work I have done. I appeal to the membership at large to not take action against me (termination of membership) for failing to meet any volunteer requirements now and in the future. Thank you.

Using Legal Interventions to Resolve Sunnyhill Co-op Member Issues

Submitted by Phil Cox

If a member wrecks their unit, causes a disturbance or falls into arrears, and if they then disregard internal processes of sanction, then engaging legal services seems a viable option as a last resort.

Where we have difficult interactions across the membership that are traceable to personal styles and convictions and not malicious intent, there is no place for a legal intervention, ever. It is for us as a community to find a way.

The board initiated a very risky procedure designed to assign fault and make a repair. Confidentiality now is justified to protect the parties, but it has cordoned off what can be talked about and left a few of us feeling just a little less at home. And that is a loss to Sunnyhill.

We can build back from this, to be sure. But please, let’s not hail the use of a private investigator as a tool for making us stronger.

To Follow up on the March 2 Meeting in Preparation for the Meeting March 14

Submitted by Richard Harrison on behalf of the Board


Dear Members of the Co-op, 

Thank you to all who’ve written for the recent Special Edition of the Sunnyhill Voice, and thank you, too, those of you who’ve spoken or written to me personally since March 2. And thank you to the Board, who had an intense and lengthy conversation in its March 10 meeting to analyze the one on March 2 and craft a response to it. Thank all of you for your comments, and more, for your faith in Sunnyhill and our ability to deal with our current issues in such a way that we not only maintain but enhance our co-operative identity. 

It’s clear that we don’t want what happened in March 2’s meeting to happen again. It is clear, too, that the method to make sure of it isn’t just Robert’s Rules, it’s the will to support and apply them for the good of the whole. I’ve been in this situation before, where a meeting completes its agenda, but misplaces its spirit, the fellowship that makes it the meeting of a community. Over and over, I hear that we can no longer allow individuals to turn the common purpose of the meeting to their own agendas – and do so without appropriate respect for their fellow members of the Co-op. 

It’s widely accepted that each of us ought to have freedom, and at the same time, that the freedom we each have is limited by the freedom of others. But how that almost universally accepted principle works in practice is a political problem that requires constant thought. I think the Co-op itself is a metaphor for the answer: our homes are our own, but our walls belong to each other. 

This is the difference between Co-op living and private ownership. In a stand-alone house, your walls are your own; you can enjoy your home by playing your music louder than you can when you share a wall with someone else. You can raise your voice along with the music. You can tend your garden, or not, as you see fit, without regard to the weeds you might spread to your neighbors. You can put up pictures in the middle of the night. You can let your place fall to ruin. You can refuse to volunteer time or money … you get the idea. In a Co-op all of those individual exercises of freedom are limited by the walls you share with others, giving you your own space, but holding up both your houses. Living in a Co-op means to willingly contract to give up the liberties and privileges that private ownership permits. 

In return, we get community. We all know 10 or 20 or 60 of our neighbors. We share food and games and clean up duties in the common area and a financial future and the making of decisions. I love that. And while many of us might have come here at first attracted by the affordable housing charge and the view and the cedar ceilings, the ones who’ve stayed, I believe, stay here because the kind of love that’s found in a fellowship worth giving up stuff for. 

In meetings, Robert’s Rules are our shared walls. The complete book of them is 716 pages long. It has been in print, revised and reissued since 1876. Its 11th Edition is the result of 130 years of study of the way collective decision-making can best be facilitated as times and technology change what we expect of each other. I’ve acted as Chair in various organizations for decades., and I know I’ve made mistakes with the rules, and I’ve learned that sometimes, in interpreting them within the boundaries that they themselves allow, I have erred on the side of letting unproductive things go too long. I’m sensitive to the accusation that that the chair can become dictatorial. We are all sensitive to the accusation that we aren’t offering respect or are limiting someone else’s freedom of expression – those two are two of the great sins of our age – but certain latitude with the rules here has led to alienation and disrespect. So for a while at least, listening to the voices I’ve heard rise to a chorus over the past few days, as Chair I am going to use Robert’s Rules in the strict sense. 

So here is a quick guide to Robert’s Rules:

  1. The Philosophy of Robert’s Rules

  2. The Mechanics of Robert’s Rules

  3. Robert’s Rules and the Agenda

  4. Robert’s Rules, Civility, and the Mood of the Room

  5. Robert’s Rules and Reading into the Minutes 

  6. Robert’s Rules and the Chat Function 


  1. The Philosophy of Robert's Rules        

A: Robert's Rules are rules in favour of the shyest person in the room. 

Robert’s Rules is a system of discussion that gives everyone their turn and no more than their turn. It appoints a chair trusted by the group to make decisions according to the rules but who also acts in accord with the group as a whole 

B: Robert's Rules recognize that there are two kinds of votes. 

Robert’s holds to the idea that some decisions require more "buy-in" than others. In some cases, a simple majority (half those who vote plus one) is enough to assure the group that the decision in question is supported enough to warrant their support. Things for us like whether we support the Rooftops initiative or what the Housing Charge will be are such decisions. In meetings, these proposals for action are debated under Ordinary Resolutions.

But there are matters -- like bylaws and constitutions -- that do effects on the way things are done that can outlast the participatory lives of the people who make decisions about them. For those decisions, Robert's argues, those motions express Special Resolutions which require a 2/3 majority vote.

C: Robert's Rules are only rules. 

They're not laws, and they don't try to be. Admittedly, any group has its moments where the will of the majority, either expressly by vote or by extension through people voted into positions of authority, is imposed on everyone. In democratic institutions, there are protections against abuse of power, but such protections often take time to work. 

But Robert's Rules are constantly in front of us while we are in a meeting. In a sense, they are the procedures for free decision-making, which, to my mind, is decision-making that can explain itself. They do allow for variations on themselves with consent of the meeting -- things like allowing the maker of a motion to answer a question during the discussion, or the raising of "Points of Information" and "Points of Order" that both break the flow of a discussion when they are invoked and reconnect when they're done. 

It should be noted that Robert’s does allow a group to tailor things to their own needs, so even a consistent reference to Robert’s Rules will produce different results depending on how strictly or loosely the community chooses to use them. 

2. The Mechanics of Robert’s Rules 

Under Robert’s Rules, discussion is guided by a Resolution, which is expressed as a Motion. A motion is a statement about what the group should do. It is made by a member in the form of “I move that …..” . Once it is made, it needs to be seconded by another member in order to be discussed. If no one seconds a motion, it is dropped. 

For seconded motions, the order of the discussion is this: The person making the motion speaks in favour of it. 

Then the Chair opens the discussion to the members who signal their intention to speak. The Chair calls on each in turn. Each speaker can speak only once until the speaker’s list is finished; only then can someone who has spoken speak again. Each speaker must speak only about the resolution under debate. The Chair’s responsibility is to make sure that happens. No speaker can speak longer than 5 minutes/time they get to speak.

When the speakers have finished, the maker of the motion gets a chance to reply if they wish to. 

Then a vote is called. Motions for Ordinary Resolutions require a simple majority vote to pass; for Special Resolutions it is a 2/3 majority.

Everything in Robert’s Rules stems from this core. It’s orderly, and if followed, efficient. 

That said, there are variations on this theme that can complicate it and, if not checked, derail it and the meeting.

During debate, members can Move to Amend a motion. The motion they are proposing to amend is then known as the Main Motion. The amendment they make (if it is seconded), is considered a Subsidiary Motion and debated and voted on. If successful, it changes the wording of the main motion, if not, the main motion is unchanged. 

There are several other motions that can also be made once a main motion is under discussion (or, as Robert’s calls it “on the table”).  These are called Incidental Motions. The most-often used of these is Point of Order through which a member can raise a matter of procedure during a debate. The member can raise this point at any time during the discussion. However, the point of order must actually be a point about rules and procedure. Members cannot use it to add information or make arguments about the content of a motion or presentation under consideration. 

The other is a Point of Information. Like the Point of Order, this can be raised any time during a discussion, but can only be used to request information the member making the request sees as knowledge essential to the discussion at hand. 

When the debate about a motion is finished, the Chair, or a member can Call the Question. This is the call to vote on the motion.  

These are the most commonly used subsidiary and incidental motions. You can go through a whole meeting without needing much more than these. The rest are fine points of procedure, and the Chair will do their best, in future meetings – and in future writing on the subject – to familiarize the membership with these. 

3. Robert’s Rules and the Agenda 

We’ve had some recent difficulties with the agenda that need addressing. The Agenda is a proposal. The Chair puts it forward for the membership to approve the content and order of the items to be discussed. 

Since it is a proposal, the membership can modify it at the beginning of the meeting. However, it should be noted that every such modification, should, strictly speaking, require a vote by the membership in favour of including it before it is added. Likewise with items suggested for removal. Addition of items to the agenda may be spoken to by the member proposing them, but they are not debatable since debating them would automatically be putting them on the agenda. 

4. Robert’s Rules, Civility, and the Mood of the Room 

One of the reasons Robert’s Rules become loosely applied is that the Rules themselves acknowledge that people get used to each other, and that it is possible to read a room. So often things that technically require votes, usually procedural things, are dealt with without the cumbersome making of motions and voting on them. For the near future, in order to preserve the decorum of the meeting from the outset, the Chair will go by the book on all such matters. 

Robert’s also assumes that, once accepting of the rules, people will not speak over one another or break the decorum of the discussion. However, as noted below in the section on The Philosophy of Robert’s Rules, the Rules, from Henry Robert’s first writing of them in 1876 on, knows that it is those who can be shouted down who most need protecting by them. 

So the Chair has certain responsibilities to maintain order and a dialogue of respect. If a member speaks more than their time, uses language outside the bounds of parliamentary respect, becomes antagonistic towards another member, or behave in a way that disrupts the meeting, the Chair can cite that member as Out of Order and ask them to desist. If the Chair names the member, the naming of the member and the reason for it is recorded in the minutes; likewise if an apology is offered, and if a withdrawable remark withdrawn. 

Also, if the Chair does not reprimand a member behaving in such a manner by name, another member can ask for that member to be called out of order. 

If the behaviour persists, the Chair alone does not have the authority to reprimand a member further. That lies with the members at the meeting. The Chair can ask that a member move that the offending member be censured. Such a censure may be a demand for an apology or removal from the meeting. The motion to censure is not debatable, and it can be passed by a majority, voting, given the sensitivity of the case, by ballot. Those who have pointed out in their articles in the Newsletter are in line with and find support in this aspect of Robert’s Rules: the decorum of the meeting the responsibility of the meeting itself. 

5. Robert’s Rules and Reading into the Minutes 

Until these past issues with minutes, it’s been customary here for the Chair and recording secretary to add to the minutes anything a member requests be added. However, this, too, is a loose interpretation of Robert’s on the matter. 

According to a strict interpretation of the rules, which will be followed for the next while at least, only additions to the minutes requested by a member and voted by the membership to be accepted as additions to the minutes will be included. 

6. Robert’s Rules and the Chat Function 

Remember when passing notes in class got you in trouble? Now it’s not only allowed, Chat encourages it. We’re still getting into trouble, only this time it’s the notes themselves that often cause the grief. There is no specific mention of Chat in the 11th Edition of Robert’s Rules, but online updates to Robert’s extend the Rules’ warnings against sidebar conversations within meetings. They divide the attention of the room, and with Chat, they can set up their own parallel, un-chaired and un-minuted meeting within the meeting. 

As long as Chat remains incidental, and private between members as they share information about matters at hand, it can be useful. However, in the case where a Chat thread becomes diversionary or its language unparliamentary, it will need to be restrained. The Chair of the meeting cannot consistently follow two meetings at once. It will be up to members to monitor Chat, and if it becomes a detriment to the meeting, to draw the Chair’s attention to it. The Chair can call members to order and return to the main meeting, or, if the membership finds that the Chat is harming the decorum or purpose of the meeting, it can be disabled for a period of time. 

Member Letter About the General Meeting on March 2

Submitted by Debbie Willis

Dear fellow members of Sunnyhill Co-op,

I've been thinking about our meeting on March 2nd, where we witnessed a lot of hurt and frustration within our membership. I believe that most of the membership (many of whom were not directly involved in this current constellation of conflicts and may not even be aware of the specifics) will soon be ready to formally close this chapter and move forward. I personally look forward to hearing the policy changes that the board will suggest to help the co-op deal with future, similar challenges. The co-op has spent a huge amount of money, and the board and those involved in the investigation have given enormous amounts of time to this conflict, and I hope we won't allow it to go on forever. It would be best if we could move towards healing these rifts, and though I'm not sure how that will be possible in this specific case, I am optimistic that we will move beyond our current situation.

To that end, I had one idea that could perhaps help us in the future: Sunnyhill could pay to train a small team of volunteer mediators among our membership, people who could be called upon to help deal with interpersonal issues. Many Indigenous cultures have traditions of healing circles, and perhaps a similar, small-scale initiative could help us deal with interpersonal conflicts as they come up. I think this group could respond based on our shared values, which I hope we’ll soon define, and could take as their mission to ensure fair, generous-hearted dialogue at the co-op.

We live in a complex time, dealing with the pandemic and a climate-crisis that will continue to get more and more severe. As a co-op, we are also looking towards the challenge of organizing and implementing an ambitious and exciting Deep-Green Retrofit. We must have strategies to work together and to remain cooperative in spirit.

Thank you,

Debbie Willis

Member Letter Concerning the March 2 General Meeting

Submitted by Kris Wenzel

I would like to voice my chagrin as it relates to the March 2 General Meeting.

Strong opinions and passion are the lifeblood of any community, but I venture to suggest that no matter how strongly one may feel on any topic concerning the welfare of the Co-op, it does not justify dominating the agenda and monopolizing speaking time to the extent we witnessed on March 2.

There are dozens of members with equal stake and interest in the Co-op who were not heard while louder and more insistent voices prevailed, repetitive in content and adversarial in tone. Newer members like myself who are interested in becoming more engaged at Sunnyhill left that meeting feeling browbeaten and alienated.

I do not dismiss the concerns of any speaker. All feelings have merit and must be addressed, but in the context of an online, ‘general’ meeting involving dozens of potential participants, there should be a limit on the sheer amount of time any one member can speak. Or in lieu of that being mandated, perhaps we can remind ourselves that allowing for more and varied opinions to be heard is simple courtesy.

Clearly there are disagreements on meetings procedure and broader issues of trust to address, but the meeting March 2 had the qualities of a U.S. Senate filibuster, in that the majority of Co-op members were continually being diverted from actually confronting the issues at hand by a strident minority, and were left feeling confused and disrespected.

The pandemic is wearing us down and the world of Zoom meetings is hardly satisfying, which is all the more reason why our discourse needs to be as polite and as inclusive as possible.

Thank you,

Kris Wenzel

 

Letter from Member Regarding the General Meeting, March 2

Submitted by Sherry Kozak

The most recent SHC meeting was monopolized by a few members who were discussing items not on the agenda. In order to avoid this in the future, I suggest we return to a stricter use of Roberts Rules which we have used in the past.

1. The person making a motion may speak to explain the motion, then members can ask questions relevant to that item when recognized by the chair and may speak for a maximum of 5 minutes each. They may not address the issue twice. The mover of the motion may summarize the motion prior to the vote.

2. Due to lack of familiarity with Robert’s Rules, all meetings should be conducted with the basic Robert’s Rules (how to make a motion, second a motion, amend a motion, etc) but should not allow use of Point of Order, Point of Procedure, etc as these have been used improperly by members to interrupt proceedings and expound on other matters.

3. The summary pages of Robert’s Rules should be redistributed on paper to each unit as well as posted on the website.


Member Letter About March 2 Meeting

Submitted by Cindy Schnee

I feel trepidation about attending the next co-op meeting on March 14 because the last meeting on March 2 left a bad taste in my mouth. There were negative feelings and mistrust conveyed by some individuals, a feeling I do not share and resent having to participate in. I am frustrated that this kind of behaviour can dominate meetings, especially as attending meetings is an opportunity for members to participate in the co-op. Opinions are important and need to be heard, but there is a need for balance by other voices. It is also concerning that the meeting was unnecessarily long because some members were intent on advancing their own agendas. I left that meeting feeling flabbergasted that it happened the way it did. I don’t like that a meeting can devolve to a point where individual members need to decry uncooperative behaviour. It doesn’t feel good to have to write this type of note after a meeting and I am hoping that we can find a way to prevent uncooperative agendas from overtaking meetings. Despite my apprenhension I will attend the next co-op meeting, because participation is important to our governance and community.

Member Letter Regarding March 2 General Meeting

Submitted by Bonnie Robinson

We wanted to express our frustrations with the general meeting we had Tuesday March 2. We had to leave early but in the hour and 15 minutes that we were there, we didn’t even get beyond the agenda. We are still unclear of the catalyst of all the drama ( and quite frankly we don’t really need to know) but it feels like personal issues are being dragged up and general meetings are not the place to do so. James and I just wish we could move on because at this point, it feels like things are worsening. Both of us woke up the next morning still feeling gross about that meeting. We love this community and just want us to pull through. We are hoping that voicing our feelings can in the smallest way contribute to healing as a co-op.

-James and Bonnie #740

Open Letter to the Board and Membership

Submitted by Eric Moschopedis

Dear Board and fellow Members,

I want to thank the Board for all of  it’s diligence, kindness, and thoughtfulness over the last many months. I believe that the work you have done will lay the foundation for some positive change in the future. So thank you. You deserve and have earned my trust and respect—and in my opinion, that of the Membership. 

The March 2nd meeting left me, and others who have reached out, feeling sad, bruised, and disappointed. Having the meeting dominated by personal, as opposed to collaborative agendas, wasn’t productive or fair to the rest of the membership. We are a community with a multiplicity of voices, but to be healthy we need to hear them. This means creating safe, fair, and equitable spaces for exchange. Roberts Rules provides a framework for engagement, but it cannot demand respect and kindness, only we, the Membership can. 

I am happy that the Membership was able to come together to pass the motion regarding minutes and that the report about the investigation was presented. But I don’t think that we—the Membership—can ignore what happened at the meeting or we will see this behaviour repeated. As a Membership we need to firmly state that “enough is enough” and not put all of the onus on the Board to curb inappropriate behaviour.

A tremendous amount of time, hard work, and money has been dedicated to the physical infrastructure at Sunnyhill, but without proper intervention (think acupuncture) into the body politic of Sunnyhill, we risk an unhealthy community. Sunnyhill is a courageous idea populated by individuals, but only through kindness, generosity, and honest dialogue can we be a heterogeneous community.

The Board and the Membership have created momentum to affect change. I encourage us to use this momentum to create the conditions for healing and the space to be imaginative about who we want to be. 

Much respect,

Eric

Member Letter Regarding Recent General Meeting

Submitted by Dorrie Derbowka

Dear Members of the Board and Sunnyhill members:

I am writing to express my feelings regarding the last general meeting, and to acknowledge the community concerns this meeting raised. The meeting was difficult to witness, in that the voices of a minority of members dominated the conversation, and that these voices were at times adversarial, inappropriate and disrespectful. This behaviour is concerning as it not only directly impacted the meeting in a negative way, it has also had a ripple effect whereby the negative behaviour of any member in a general forum inadvertently permeates our entire community.

Acting from an individual mindset and agenda, and forgetting the big picture of community and cooperative behaviour results in an outcome like what we saw at the March 2nd meeting. Although the acrimonious tone of the meeting was disheartening, the beauty of membership at Sunnyhill is that members have a voice. A voice to say that we will not allow this behaviour to dominate our co-op. A voice to say that these actions do not define Sunnyhill, and that we do not want them to be allowed to continue to impact our community. It is not the board’s responsibility to create the community for us. It is up to us as members to take responsibility for creating the kind of community we want to live in.

The creation of a diverse, fair and welcoming community involves holding ourselves and each other accountable to the standards and values we agree to abide by when we sign the membership agreement. Cooperative living involves valuing the opinions of other members as much as we value our own, and doing our utmost to ensure that our individual wants do not usurp the wants and needs of other members, or of our community as a whole. It also involves listening to each other, and ensuring that all voices have the opportunity to be heard equitably. I hope the membership can hold on to these values as we attempt to move forward in a positive way.

I would like to thank the Board for all they are doing to make Sunnyhill a vibrant, cooperative community for all of us. Your efforts are noticed and are deeply appreciated.

Sincerely,

Dorrie Derbowka

Unit #24

The Principles and Practice of Being Cooperative

Submitted by Rachel Rose

An invitation to Sunnyhill, 

I have been reflecting on what it means to be cooperative and would like to share my thoughts... 

We often speak about “being cooperative” but in my time here I have seen many behaviours we assume are cooperative despite being in contradiction to one another. 

It seems at times that there is an assumption that since we are part of a co-op that we must be behaving cooperatively, but I don’t believe that’s the case. I think being cooperative is an intentional act that needs to be practiced time and time again. It’s not an arrival but rather an ongoing activity. We can’t declare that we are being cooperative, cooperation needs to be driven by shared ethics and values. 

We rely on our policies, Robert’s Rules, as well as norms to govern how we operate, but in many ways these are incomplete. These are merely tools and it’s the ethic and spirit in which they are utilized that can become cooperative or uncooperative. 

I have been wondering, what are the principles of cooperative behaviour? What does this look like in practice? What behaviours undermine cooperation? 

Over the last year I have observed instances of behaviours that I perceive to be uncooperative including: 

  • Making assumptions

  • Starting dialogue with accusations and adversarial tones.

  • Refusing to communicate or shutting down

  • Seeking to be right rather than to be heard

  • A refusal to take perspectives

I have also seen behaviours that I believe to be cooperative including: 

  • Asking questions with curiosity

  • Listening

  • Turn taking

  • Showing appreciation

  • Starting with goodwill

  • Trusting in the good faith of others to function on our behalf

In my opinion Sunnyhill is at a pivotal juncture whereby we need to begin to further deliberate what it actually means to be cooperative and hold ourselves accountable to this or we risk division, harm, and fracture. My fear is if we don’t do this, uncooperative behaviours will further silence and marginalize members who we so deeply need engaged. Without this our meetings will be empty and we will find ourselves further apart and falling into disrepair.

I am sincerely interested in exploring the ethics and values of how we cooperate and would love to engage in dialogue and learn about what this means to you in efforts of starting to craft a shared vision. 

All my best, 

Rachel 

#807


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